Episode 138

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14th Aug 2025

Ep. 138: Douglas Song, Managing Partner at Prodos Capital & Dan Lee, Partner at Pin High Strategies

Topics:

  • What to Prioritize in Your First Deal
  • How to Vet Founder-Led Companies
  • Capital Trends for Independent Sponsors

...and so much more.

Top Takeaways

  • Bet on grit, not credentials. Dan jokes that both Jordan and Douglas had terrible business ideas when he first met them, but he backed them anyway for their grit and drive. Douglas echoes the same philosophy in his hiring practices. It’s not about Ivy League degrees, but how people show up when things go wrong. Character under pressure beats credentials on paper.


  • Desperation ruins deals—discipline builds reputations. Dan shares how the pressure to close your first deal can cloud judgment. When you're afraid of spooking the seller, it’s tempting to rush diligence and ignore red flags. But one bad deal can damage your reputation for years. His advice: slow down, validate the opportunity, and don’t let emotion override your standards.


  • It's never too early to address gaps. Douglas explains that waiting until after close to address gaps—like ERP systems implementation or CFO hires—can create unnecessary delays. Instead, start those workstreams during diligence. It sets clear expectations, secures buy-in from sellers, and ensures you hit the ground running from day one.


About Douglas Song

Douglas is the Managing Partner at Prodos Capital and a veteran independent sponsor with decades of experience in restructuring and lower-middle market buyouts. He focuses on founder-led businesses with strong cash flow and growth potential. Douglas was raised in a South Korean immigrant family of entrepreneurs—an experience that shaped the values he brings to his work today.


About Prodos Capital

Prodos Capital is a New York–based private investment firm operating under the independent sponsor model. It acquires and grows lower middle-market companies with strong cash flow and sustainable advantages. The team partners with management, capital providers, and operating partners to build long-term value without the constraints of a committed fund..


About Dan Lee

Dan Lee is a seasoned investor and operator with experience in private equity, investment banking, and advisory. He recently started his own firm dedicated to serving the independent sponsor community. Dan brings a people-first approach grounded in collaboration, trust, and long-term partnerships.


About Pin High Strategies

Pin High Strategies is a boutique merchant banking and advisory firm that works with independent sponsors and founder-led businesses. Its services cover the full deal lifecycle, including sourcing, due diligence, structuring, execution, and post-close value creation.

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Jordan Selleck

Founder. Recovering Investment Banker. 3x Entrepreneur. Philz Coffee Enthusiast.

Jordan Selleck is a recovering investment banker turned 3x entrepreneur. While teaching English in China, Jordan met an investment banker in a bar and before he knew it he’d spent six years in cross-border investment banking advising global corporates and private equity firms on M&A deals up to $250 million.

As much as Jordan loved investment banking, he always knew he was meant to do something more. In 2016, Jordan founded Debtmaven, a deal management platform for debt financing in the lower middle market. It was while he was marketing Debtmaven on LinkedIn that Jordan found his true passion: building meaningful relationships in the lower middle market.

Seeing over 50% of Debtmaven’s $450million+ in deals come from LinkedIn, he realized he’d found an untapped market and began his journey with LinkedIn consulting. Dozens of clients and a handful of extraordinarily talented employees later, 51 Labs is a thriving marketing agency for the lower middle market that produces captivating content and generates organic traffic across LinkedIn.

Jordan was born in San Diego, grew up in North Carolina and attended UNC-Chapel Hill. He has traveled to 32 countries, lived in China for 18 months, trains Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, is a fourth-generation private pilot, SCUBA dives, speaks Mandarin Chinese, and is a husband and father of 2.